On this episode, we talk to Dr. Robb Kelly about addiction, the subconscious brain, helping the next human being along and how trauma is the gateway to addiction.
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Robb Kelly, PhD is a renowned addiction consultant who believes in treating the problem of addiction, not the symptoms. He has worked for many years helping addicts and alcoholics to recover their lives from the disease of addiction. Based on his own experiences working with addicts and alcoholics over the last 20 years, a PhD in Psychology from Oxford University and as a recovered alcoholic himself – he is a triple threat against the disease of addiction. Dr. Kelly was the CEO of a thriving telecommunications company when the walls came crashing down on him due to alcoholism. He ended up homeless and broken on the streets of Manchester, England until he found the courage to save himself. He has lectured on the subject of addiction at many high-profile universities, national conferences, treatment facilities, public schools, churches, business organizations and hospitals, and is recognized as a leading authority on addiction recovery methods that are changing lives all around the world. Dr. Kelly is currently the CEO of the Robb Kelly Recovery Group, an addiction recovery coaching company he created based on extensive research and behaviour studies that he conducted over the last 20 years. Dr. Kelly’s methods may seem unconventional leading some people to refer to him as "The Gordon Ramsay of the Addiction World" because of his direct, no-nonsense, and candid approach to treating addiction. Dr. Kelly works to "make the road of recovery less of a mystery tour."
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Memorable Moments:
7:12: I want to say off the bat is alcohol has nothing to do or hardly nothing to do with alcoholism and the same with drugs. It's not the alcohol. It's actually a predisposition with alcoholics and of course the trauma. Everyone asks me what the gateway drug is Dr. Robb? I say trauma, forget about marijuana. It's trauma. We need to get back and look at trauma.
12:24: Anything less than nurturing, as a child, is child abuse. So think about that for a second, because we have to be careful what our children are exposed to, how they eat, how they act around others.
15:34: The understanding of all this brings us to the fact that you can fully recover from alcoholism and addiction. You just know, knowledge is the game here. It's all knowledge. The more you know about brain science, the more you recover from the disease and get on with your life.
16:39: Most of the traumas we forget and we hide away. And we disassociate with that traumatic effect. But where it’ll come out is in your relationships.
17:19: So if you're looking at your behavior [and] you have certain traits that you get to a certain point in self-sabotage, there's trauma behind that.
20:22: And I'm guaranteeing you, and I mean guarantee, that if you do this and readdress your trauma, and you go back to the scene of the crime and you clear all that up, you will have a life beyond your wildest dreams.
20:49: Everybody has trauma. It's just like everybody knows somebody who's an alcoholic or addict. And if you don't, then it's probably you. This is what I tell people, because the disease and the thought pattern and the depression is rife, but nobody's talking about it.
21:18: It's about bringing people out and actually acknowledging that if you tell people you have a problem and you’ve recovered from it, it gives other people hope.
23:53: If you're in that position, if you don't think you're good enough, if you don't think you're going to amount to anything, I want to apologize to you. Because somebody’s put that there. We are born with million dollar minds. Stop hanging around 10 cent minds, guys. You can do anything that you want to do.
24:24: Life's for living guys. Don't think this is your lot. You know, if you're homeless or sat in a one bedroom apartment and you can't afford food, this isn't your lot. This is training. This is your training. So when you go on, because it's all about helping the next human being along.
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Allison: Dr. Rob Kelly is a renowned addiction consultant who believes in treating the problem of addiction, not the symptoms. He has worked for many years, helping addicts and alcoholics to recover their lives from the disease of addiction, based on his own experiences, working with addicts and alcoholics over the last 20 years, a PhD in psychology from Oxford University and as a recovered alcoholic himself, he has a triple threat against the disease of addiction.
Dr. Robb was the CEO of a thriving telecommunications company. When the walls came crashing down on him due to alcoholism, he ended up homeless and broken on the streets of Manchester, England, until he found the courage to save himself. He has lectured on the subject of addiction at many high profile universities, national conferences, treatment facilities, public schools, churches, business organizations, and hospitals. And is recognized as a leading authority on addiction recovery methods that are changing lives all around.
Dr. Robb is currently the CEO of ‘Robb Kelly Recovery Group’ and an addiction recovery coaching company. He created extensive research and behavior studies that he conducted over the last 20 years. His methods may seem unconventional, leading some people to refer to him as the Gordon Ramsey of the addiction world because of his direct, no nonsense and candid approach to treating addiction.
Dr. Robb works to make the road of recovery less of a mystery tour. Okay. Dr. Robb, we are so excited to have you on the show today. Would you mind introducing yourself to the audience?
Dr. Robb: Hey guys, my name is Dr. Rob Kelly, that called me “The Addiction Doctor” for a reason.
Good to see you guys. I'm from San Antonio, Texas is where I reside now. Originally, as you can tell from the accent, I’m from Manchester in the United Kingdom, I got air as quick as I could guys, 14 years ago.
Allison: Thanks again for joining us, Dr. Rob, you know, some of our listeners are not familiar with your story, so I was hoping you would tell us a little bit about your experience.
I know you've got a book that all of us need to go out and buy so we can read more, but how can you just give us a little taste, of sort of, what your experience has been like and how that's really paved the way for where you are now.
Dr. Robb: Yeah, so I come from a musical family, so I've been playing on stage since the age of nine is where I took my first drink also.
A very nervous child took a first drink and my whole world just took off from there. So I found alcohol. I went through normal school, middle school, and then high school was pretty good. Drinking Friday, Saturday, Sunday, when I'm out with my musical family, auntie and uncle play in the clubs of Manchester and surrounding areas, I always wanted better.
We grew up in what you guys would call the projects, two steps from a trailer park. But I always want to get better and I knew I could do better, but the drinking was just a confidence building for me. So I got a job at Abbey Road, most people remember Abby Rose and the Beatles and stuff like that.
I got a session-based playing job there, cause that's what I wanted to do, be a musician. I played with Elton John, David Bowie, Queen, Freddie Mercury. All them great guys of the eighties and put myself through college. Oxford university actually has two PhDs, one in psychology and another one I did about 10 years ago in behavioral science because we can't leave the central nervous system out of what I do in addiction.
College went great, I found people that could drink like me. Wow. Awesome. Until it got to exam time and they would fade off. And I just about got through college and then I got jobs and got married and then my alcoholism, not drugs, I'm not drugs, drugs don't do nothing to me, really. Alcoholism took over, I eventually had the house, the cars, Bentleys, jaguars, range rovers and two children, young tops, and a, the house looked beautiful from the outside.
People used to pass and go, oh my God, he must be doing amazing. And I was, I always do, but it was mayhem inside the house, unfortunately with my alcoholism. So eventually through loads of things that happened. Some of them are pretty harsh that I'm not proud of, during a blackout. My wife and my children were taken away and my house and my cars and my medical license, and my parents and my friends were taken away and I ended up homeless. And I was homeless for 14 months, begging for money on the streets, sleeping on benches on the trees when it was cold, and it did that for 14 months. So that's kind of a background of where I come from. There's loads of stuff in between, that’s pretty harsh.
You know, I should have died on many occasions. In fact, at the suicide attempts, there was six on two occasions, they succeeded and my heart stopped and the medics brought me back on the side of a dark, stinky raining road in the backends of Manchester. So it's just, it looked to me when I, when it came out from all that, that I just couldn't die.
There was a bigger picture for me, which I now know to today. Today I left just if anybody out there, what an ideal life and you wrote me down, that's what I'm living. You know, it's phenomenal, but I have a passion for this recovery thing and addiction because it's killing more people than we know. It's a very, very hush hush disease. No one wants to talk about it.
There's no money in recovery. If people can't give you a pill or a treatment center for 30 days and you are kind of lost in the way and left to die, you know, we've tracked the deaths over the last 10 years and alcoholism and addiction kills more people than heart attacks and cancer put together.
And I have a large mouth. I'm very cocky. I'm going to ask the question or say things that you're only thinking, guys out there because I want to make an impact. And I've worked with about 7,000 patients right now over the last 30 years. And I'm not going to stop until they put me away in that coffin or whatever it is they're going to put me in, so that’s it.
Allison: Well, I love your story. Thank you for sharing it. And I, you know, I, I do believe that, you know, when you can channel hardship to do good in the future, right? Like I believe like, you know, there's certain people that have been given that strength to be able to use that recovery journey, that story, to inspire others to change their lives and that's certainly something that you've been able to do.
Can you share a little bit more about what you do now and the personal, how you tie in that personal experience in what you do professionally?
Dr. Robb: Yeah, so I'm an eviction doctor. I have five locations around the world and we help people get through the addiction.
But what I want to say off the bat is alcohol has nothing to do or hardly nothing to do with alcoholism and the same with drugs. It's not alcohol. It's actually a predisposition with alcoholics and of course the trauma, everyone asks me about the gateway drug is Dr. Robb I say trauma, forget about marijuana.
It's traumatic for a minute to get back and look at trauma. So practice here is out on base in San Antonio, and we will literally help anybody, we carry more pro bonos than anybody else. We're the only company in the world that offers a money back guarantee, if you relapse. The only company in the world, because we've got it right.
The brain science behind it, which I study neuroplasticity and a central nervous system and brain science is why I'm into, not so much the old cognitive training as such in therapy. I don't believe that works in a lot of cases of chronic alcoholics. And we just, we're just giving back everyday. That's like, Alison has just said, you know, if I'm not giving back, what am I doing?
That's the bottom line for me. And we give $150,000 back to communities around the world last year. Although I live a rich, and plentiful time today, I don't have to worry about money today. I have to remember where I come from. I remember one guy finding me on the streets and helping me after thousands turned me down.
And that's always in me, you know, I'd even stop at signal lights sometimes and I'll give somebody, you know, $20, $30 dollars. And my friend will say, well, you know what they're going to do with that and my answer is they're probably going to get drugs and alcohol because that's what I would do when I was on the streets. My giving what he does with that money is none of my concern.
I'm just here to help. And that we've got a reputation for helping families because we can't, we can't really take out the families when it comes to addiction. It's a family disease, it's a family recovery and we won't take on anybody that’s partners in the house, If they're in the house, the wife's husbands must take part.
Otherwise we will not take the patient on because this isn't about taking money. This is about getting people well. So I, when I guarantee to the loved ones that I'll get them well over a 90 day period, I really need to be invested in that. So, yeah, I just love people. I love life. I've been on a crusade myself over the last couple of months.
I've dropped like 45 pounds, you know, I'm getting back even though I'm 60, I'm getting back into training and I'm getting a new life because we came down to San Antonio to retire. Can you believe that? But it didn't work out. So yeah, we've been here for four years now. So just love life.
Angela: That's amazing and I'm so glad that you're paying it forward, just based on all of these things that you've experienced and now being where you are.
And there's so much in what you just said, but before we get into where I would love to nerd out with you, which is in the neuroscience piece, I really want you to say a little bit more about, you know, what the role of trauma has an addiction and how you typically explain this to others? Because I know for so many, they're sort of like, well, well, what was the gateway drug?
Was it marijuana? Was it alcohol? Was it, you know, like there has to be, you know, something tangible. It's really like this, other worldly concept. And so coming from someone like yourself, I think it would be great for our listeners to hear more about that.
Dr. Robb: Well, people talk about trauma all the time. And many years ago in therapy, they would, they would name it, small teas, big, big teas and little teas.
You know what we found over the years of my studying, they’re hundreds of things we found. I think I'm the only person intensely studying every day to find out more as trauma is the gateway drug. And you really have to understand trauma to get into that. Everybody has trauma. But the alcoholic with the predisposition that's passed down from generation to generation has more trauma.
There's no such thing as little teas with the alcoholic. What happens is, we're born with this disease, which means that we'll never get enough. We're never going to be anything. We never amount to anything. As soon as I touch alcohol my alcoholism is then started, and God knows what it’ll finish. Maybe 10 years, 30 years, 40 years, it will finish and it will come to an end and you will die if you don't get treatment.
So what happens with trauma is as a child, you have to look and scrutinize. Like here's a, here's what I always tell my patients. So me and my brothers are on the kitchen table and we’re dancing when we're not supposed to be there. My mom walks in, oh, holy moly, what are we going to do now? She says to my brother, ot to both of us, get down off that table, stupidity, get down.
My brother jumps off and I'm frozen. I can't move. You see what I've heard, “get out of that table, you stupid idiot.” That's how the alcoholic brain works. So, trauma taken on from day one. I've had people say, I had trauma with my father. Well, my father did his best. He was working every day. We live in a $2 million house, but I only get to see him on Sunday. Trauma.
Mom used to have a drink and when she did, she used to make trauma, all this trauma we have to pick up on as a child. And I came up with a saying anything less than nurturing as a child is child abuse. So think about that for a second, because we have to be careful what our children are exposed to, how they eat, and how they act around others.
There’s a great saying today, “Show me your friends and I'll show you your future” from literally infants. We should be, we should be watching our children, making sure that they're not exposed to certain things, because right now you look at 12, 13 year old kids and younger that have been given Adderall and Vyvanse and stuff like that.
Just because these friends said, if you go tell your doctor you suffer from, you know, they’ll give you, Really? So it's all that mix of trauma. I truly agree. Then the brain's remapped going through our early 9,10,11,12,13,14 up to 20, it's been remapped. And what happens eventually? This happens. This is my, this was my central oh sorry, my brain with the neuro pathways, there are billions, but this is my primary source.
Now these are self-sabotage in your own pathways. Which means I'm going to drink, I'm going to use, I'm going to be depressed, I'm going to try and commit suicide. This is what used to run my brain. Now, these here are self care pathways and what we do here, through work, trauma, intensive daily work, regimented, we get there.
Now, this is where the self care neural pathways are running the brain. So the trauma needs to be cleared up, but guess what? This guy's always going to be there. So, unless we clear it up completely, there's a bad chance of it doing this again, once we do this, we're drinking, we're using, we're being that bad guy.
So we need to scrutinize the self-sabotage in your pathways from the self care neural pathways. So in the mix there, Angela will like this. We have the hypothalamus. Now the hypothalamus is at the base going back towards the back of the brain, the hypothalamus. This is great research. I love this. I've seen professors go.
So the hypothalamus is the fight or flight for any human being tied to the amygdala. So what happens is, a normal person makes hypothalamus, eats food, drinks water, runs, hides, whatever you need to do. Survival instinct. So many people will drink the water, eat food. At a certain stage of alcoholism, the hypothalamus tells an alcoholic to drink alcohol.
And that's why we see alcoholics going days. If not weeks without water or food, they just need alcohol. So when you have your brain fighting against your brain, then we have a problem. So the hypothalamus, the central nervous system back to the prefrontal cortex, is where the disease lies. Now the disease lies in the subconscious brain.
So I don't know what I'm going to drink and sure anybody doesn't know i’ll relapse, but it's the central nervous system and behavior that gives it away. You see, alcohol will never come to me on a Monday and go, Hey, Robb, let's have a drink. It won't build up. it's a week or even a month before when I start getting irritable with somebody like I'm looking over at Jane in the corner of the office said she's using that stupid Christmas pen that her mum bought her in December and it is now July.
That's my relapse and the understanding of all this brings us to the fact that you can fully recover from alcoholism and addiction. You just know, knowledge is the game here. It's all knowledge. The more you know about brain science, the more you recover from the disease and get on with your life.
Angela: Wow. There's so much there. I really love that you got into, even without me asking this question that we get a lot, which is going back to the trauma piece, you know, I'm, I don't really know how I got here. I had a seemingly okay childhood, nothing really significant in terms of, you know, what I think of in my brain as what trauma is, based on what I know about that.
So I like that you touched on that, but I think that that's something people really need to hear, particularly our listeners. It is this idea that something didn't happen that led you down that pathway. No pun intended. Can you speak a little bit more to that as well?
Dr. Robb: I specialized in alcoholics and if you're an alcoholic, let's just say it means addiction as well, but let's go with alcoholism for a second. Most of the traumas we forget and we hide away. And we disassociate with that, with that trot and traumatic effects, but when it’ll come out is in your relationship. Why does that girl keep attracting that bad alcoholic?
Just like a father who once tried to molest her, that she knows nothing about and it goes on and it gets so deep about trauma. So I would say 60% of the trauma that alcoholics go through, they don't come to the peripheral context. They're heading into the subconscious brain. And as we go through life, certain things will reinforce that image to the prefrontal cortex and go, oh yeah, I remember that.
So if you're looking at your behavior, you have certain traits that you get to a certain point in self-sabotage there's trauma behind that. If you keep picking the same guy on the same girl, it was not good for you. That's the trauma behind that, and it's going back. So what I did with all that, because how do you look into the subconscious brain and find out what you don't know?
And I learned a technique, which is not, it's not been published at anything yet. There's a guy that was, I was speaking to the guy that invented it and did his research on it. It's called brain spotting and basically it's a little bit like EMDR. What happens is you go through the pupil into the subconscious brain.
So, and it's real clever, you know, and every time I Twitch come, you go there and you stay there and you wait there and you wait and I've done up to an hour in the same position with, with, with this. This is what I use, same position here and it flickers and you wait there and you wait there and the memory comes.
That's how we do it and once the memory comes then you can clear that up. Actually what happened and that we weren't to blame and how this has had an effect on all of your life without you knowing. That's the crazy part you see, I know alcoholics who never drank alcohol. The other guy is running Google and Apple, you know, they're the smartest guys in the room because that's what we are.
We see things differently and we hear things different with the alcoholic brain, the outlast, any of the brain. You know, it's unbelievable. So I hope that answered your question, Angela.
Allison: So this is fascinating to me because I think there's so many cool and very progressive and also very, very helpful ways to address so many of these issues.
But if somebody is listening right now and they're like, I don't know about brainspotting, I'm not so sure about that. Like what else can they do to start to address? The trauma that these, all these other underlying issues that maybe just hearing you today have released surface their awareness about?
Dr. Robb: I think dialogue is the first thing we need to do.
And people, people think, well, that's so obvious. It's not really, because we don't like to admit any defects with our human nature. So dialogue will be the first one and get to a great therapist. Now, be careful of the therapist. That's all I'm saying every time, not every therapist is great. Not every treatment center is great.
I'd say 80% of treatment centers we don't do business with, we don't look at, we don't talk to, we don't do podcasts. So the ones that I do means that they're doing it the right way. So these are the guys you need to speak to, you can call us. We were more of a concierge doctor when it comes to the edge.
We only take six to eight patients per year. So yeah, dialogue and then talk to somebody that doesn't have to be a therapist, talk to a friend, you know, close mouth friend and go, Hey, I think this is happening. And once the friend has exhausted his knowledge, then go on to a professional and shop around, see what the best ask for a zoom call before you go see if you get on with the person, go down and start talking.
And I'm guaranteeing you. And I mean, guarantee that if you do this and readdress your trauma. And you go back to the scene of the crime. When you clear all that up, you will have a life beyond your wildest dreams. Now I always carry this. It's about, I dunno how much it is, about hundred thousand dollars, which I give away to people who don't believe go and find out, go and go solve this trauma. Everybody has trauma.
It's just like everybody knows somebody who's an alcoholic or addict. And if you don't, then it's probably you. This is what I tell people, because the disease and the thought pattern of the depression is rife, but nobody's talking about it, and that's why I think God sent me to America, is to open my big mouth and spread the word and loads of, we've worked from the highest paid actors, footballers, to the road, sweep around the corner.
I mean, it's about bringing people out and that's acknowledging that if you tell people you have a problem and you have recovered from it, it gives other people hope. And I have been trying to do that for the last 14 years. And a few people have come out, which is amazing, but most don't want to stay away because at the end of the day, again, nobody wants to defect.
Angela: I love your approach and just how straightforward it is. And one of the things that we've actually talked to a lot of people more recently about is really this idea that, you know, there are so many resources out there. And there's clearly no shortage of that, but there isn't a whole lot of really organized, well thought through comprehensive approaches to these kinds of issues.
And I think it's also really nice to hear someone who can straight up say when we're past a certain point where we can just sort of. I say, handle it ourselves with air quotes because you know, there is no, absolutely no shame in reaching out for help. And sometimes we just need other people to help us get out of our own way.
So I love that. The approach that you take, how it's so inclusive, I mean, there's so much, there's so much to that. And so much that we sort of miss in a lot of the standard ways that we approach care just locally and globally, right. Just in this very individualistic way. And that's just not the way that we exist in the world.
So really thank you so much for everything that you do. And of course, we're going to post how everyone can reach out to you because they know that you're just given treatment away.
Dr. Robb: You know, it's, it's amazing what you just said, it's so true. You know, get to somebody that can help. Don't go to a treatment center or text Johnny for this third time for $30,000 a time.
That's not the place for you to go and go where they get results. Sit down with people, talk, get open about it and listen. Here's what I'm going to do. You can't buy anything off us. You can't buy our treatment center. You can't, you just can't do it. You have to earn it. So don't even think that this is a sales call because it's not.
If you want to fight. Pep talk that will change your life. And we're full by the way. For the next 12 months, we can't take your money, but if you want a five minute pep talk.Call me, Call me. Not my assistant, not the front desk, not my call me on (214) 600-0210. And if I, if we need any help, we'll send you to advance recovery is where we're going to send you, but I'll give you a pet talk
that’ll change your life because this is about living this isn't about sitting around being miserable
And we've been, everyone's been there guys. You know, I'm not saying, I'm sorry, I'm not, I don't know. White horse here preaching. I am not, I've been so depressed I went to kill myself. And obviously I nearly did, but if you're in that position, if you don't think you've got enough, if you don't think you're going to amount to anything.
I want to apologize to you because somebody put that there we are born with million dollar minds, stop hanging around 10 cent minds, guys. You can do anything that you want to do. Quantum physics tells us that we can be anywhere anytime, just vision it, walk over and take it. If you're suffering, call me, I'll give you a pet chat that it will make your day.
Believe me, I'll make your day. Believe me. I've done this so many times. Life's for living guys. Don't think this is your law. You know, if you're homeless or sat in a one bedroom apartment and you can't afford food, this isn't your lot. This is training. This is your training. So when you go on, because it's all about helping the next human being along.
Alcoholic or not helping stopping at the grocery store, buying that girl whatever she wants to buy it because her kid can't afford a lollipop stopping at the gas station. The lady is trying to squeeze $2 of gas that has five kids in the car, fill as much as you can at that tank up. And I'll tell you something and Angela touched on it before you will never go broke by giving away.
It's just, I've tried it, I've tried it, it doesn't work. He's like we give $10,000 to somebody about three months ago. And he was like, you know, pretty big. It was 10,000. We gave it to him as my hand, as my heart, three weeks later, we got a check of the IRS for 18,000.
I say no more. It always comes back to you. So be kind and be generous and you will be good.
Allison: The universe is generous to those who give and I mean, I might be calling you for some pep talks or just to say, Hey, cause you are like, so freaking cool, Dr. Robb and I am so glad that we had you on the show today because I am sure that you have lit a fire within people to take some ownership, right?
If they haven't already, take ownership of where you're going, your life doesn't have to continue to be crappy if you don't want it to be. You can do something about it, but you got to do the work, right. We know that, it's not just going to happen overnight. So you know, do what you need to do to take care of you and the rest will fall into place and take care of others along the way.
So, one of our favorite questions to ask Dr. Robb, we're not going to let you go before you contribute your thoughts to this, but at this point in your life, what matters most to you.
Dr. Robb: Family is most. I was reconnected with my sister, a brother still doesn't speak to me, the youngest child still doesn't speak to me.
At two years ago, my daughter contacted me after 20 something years on Facebook. She wanted to meet me, and flew over there. We hugged. We cried. She let me into the house and handed me my three month old granddaughter. Six months ago, we sent her back to college three years ago, and six months ago he opened my Manchester office as a therapist.
So definitely, definitely family and my dogs, my three english bulldogs. I often say I live as if I've always wanted to learn. I drive the car I want, the house, I've got everything I need and want, but you could take me out of it tomorrow. Give me my wife, my three English bulldogs in a tent in the middle of the field and I'll be happy then as I am today.
As money, does not buy happiness. I'm those people who've had money before, you know, quite well what I'm talking about, this is about human connection. So family first, and family first and dogs next, but yeah, that's, it, it content's me. My heart is full at the moment. See, I'm doing what I want to do.
You know, we like what we do, or we love what we do because we do what we love. There's another saying that we have here. So I want to thank you so much for allowing me on the show today. It's been an absolute pleasure. You three are beautiful. Absolutely just inspire me because you just, I don't know.
You're just there doing, I mean, it's very hard sometimes. And one thing I want to say to Ashley, Angela, and yourself, Allison is, you know, it's a thankless job, sometimes this, and I've done. We do our research before we talk to anybody, but thank you guys. You three for what you do. Thank you for the effort that you put in changing hundreds of thousands of life with the ripple effect.
So I want to personally thank you because it touches my heart. All three of you have touched my heart today and it's just phenomenal. So thank you so much.
Angela: Stop it right now. You're going to make me cry. Now. I really appreciate that. And obviously right back at you, you know, it's hard work. Thank you so much for joining us today, Dr. Robb.
Can you share with our listeners how they can learn more about you and maybe follow you on social media or anywhere else other than the fact that you literally gave them your phone number?
Dr. Robb: Yeah. Yeah, always happy. You guys. Listen, jump on any search engine, Dr. Robb Kelly the websites, robbkelly.com. I spell that, I spell my name with 2 B’s.ROBBKELLY.COM
Any podcasts have put my name in and you'll see if you're feeling. You want to know more about me than jumping onto Amazon or Walmart? “Daddy, daddy, please stop drinking” is the name of the book that my daughter's last said to me. It's my story. It's uplifting. It's sad. But first of all, I want to say, or most of all that any, every dime that's spent on that book, you know, you hear people say all the profits go to charity.
No, that means they've taken that part out and what's left every dime you spend on that book. And I think it's $9. We'll go out to communities, especially in America, because I'm a citizen. Now, secondly, in England, all over the world that's needed. That's how we can give so much money away. I don't get a dime from it and nor do I want a dime from it.
This is a book for the people and listen, if you can't afford it, email my staff. We'll send you one free. Shhh.
Angela: Top secret. Well, thank you so much again, Dr. Robb.
Dr. Robb:Thank you so much for having me.
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