Dear Mind, You Matter

Living with Purpose with Dr. Keita Joy

Episode Summary

In this episode, we talk to Dr. Keita Joy about living with purpose, normalizing being in a difficult mental health moment and the power of therapy.

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Memorable Moments: 

1:47 It's a journey. So I think once you understand that, then you can accept all the ebbs and the flows in the little bumpy parts of the ride and accept all of it as, it's this one big adventure.

2:19 I think purpose first comes from the power of self-awareness and I realized that sometimes I was scared to get to know myself. Because I was scared of what I was going to find, cause I'm also going to find traumatic experiences. If I keep digging a little further, I may find some insecurities. But I realized not to shy away from it. Embrace all of it, because it all makes me who I am. 

2:42 In regards to just purpose, it was really getting reflective, getting still, and then just [asking]: "What are my talents? What are my skills? What do I know? What do I enjoy doing? Who are the people in my life that I want to make the greatest impact in?" And that could be from a global standpoint, national standpoint, and even just right in my own house with my eight and 10 year old, you know? And then once you kind of merge it together, you're like, okay, well, what's the best capacity for me to be able to make a difference with everything that I possess for the people that I care about the most, and it sounds really simple, but that's like a whole life journey.

5:04 You need that positive reinforcement in your life because that helps you to have a healthy self concept of yourself. So if you didn't receive that when you were younger, then you have to be intentional about creating a success circle around you that can help you to see who you are. Sometimes we need help to see who we are.

5:24 I think one of the ways that I was able to learn more about myself and accept myself, was to also open myself up to safe people in my life. People that I can trust people who will tell me the truth. I don't need you to be a yes person either, but people that really truly love me and think the best of me and want the best for me.

6:02 Therapy helped me so much to open my eyes to understanding who I am and a lot of the baggage that was a barrier into me seeing exactly just how amazing I am.

9:14 [Don't] be afraid to discontinue some of those relationships that no longer serve you. I had to, in a sense, kind of cut a friend off cause they just didn't understand where I was going and I had to lay it out for them: "This is the capacity that I have. This is what I can offer. And if this is not enough, then I'm probably not the right person to be in your space."

9:37 You know, so it's important for you to know what you need so that you're able to articulate that to any type of relationship that you're involved in. Not just intimate, but friendships, business relationships. I think clarity is so key in healthy relationships. 

10:37 Something that I've noticed, I think we're having conversations about mental health, but people still don't raise their hand and say, "Hey, that's me. I'm that person."

10:54 I think we kind of have to get out of that teaching mode and be more vulnerable with our experiences and share them with people around us. But I just think that balance, especially for high achieving women, we still act like we've got everything figured out. And I think when it comes to the area of depression, I still think that's something that's like a big silent killer.

12:24 You need a lifeline and it's okay to grab a lifeline when you need it. 

17:16 Here you are. You are still here. That is your proof that there is so much more purpose for you to fulfill just that simple truth of being alive. And so I always tell my clients, start from there, start from the beating heart. Your heart is beating. Start from the fact that you have breath in your lungs.

17:47 Because the truth of the matter is, I don't have yesterday. I don't have tomorrow, but I know I have today.

18:06 Oftentimes what I've noticed, people have ideas with what they want to do. So a lot of people don't really have a blank slate. People got ideas. They're just scared as hell. They're just scared to step out because they think they don't have the resources or people are going to tell them no, or they're not going to believe in them. 

19:48 So that's what I've learned, to have healthy dialogue. And inside my mind, [I say] "fear I appreciate you. Thank you for warning me, but faith has got this. Courage has got this. Strategy has got this. Creativity has got this. But I appreciate you alerting me and letting me know we're doing something new."

22:55 I truly believe in getting up early.  I love to pray before I get up in the morning. And I also liked to recite the things that I'm grateful for. So that helps me to set my intentions for the day.

25:11 So I think a lot of self-love equals discipline and setting your intentions for the day. It takes discipline to do that.

25:37  I don't want it if it doesn't bring me fulfillment. There's no price tag that I can swap for fulfillment. That's what I want. 

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Episode Transcription

Allison: Hello, welcome to the Dear Mind You Matter Podcast. My name is Allison Walsh, I am a long-time mental health advocate and Vice President at Advanced Recovery Systems. On each episode I will be joined by my colleague and clinical expert Dr. Angela Phillips. This show along with our mental health and wellness app, Nobu are just some of the ways we're working to provide you with actionable tips and tools to take really good care of yourself each and every day. So sit back, relax, and grab your favorite note taking device. It's time to fill your mind with things that matter. 

Dr. Keita Joy is the success maximizer and motivational teacher. She offers a safe space for leaders, influencers, and athletes to maximize their greatest potential through powerful coaching experiences. Welcome to the show. 

I am so excited to have you on the show today, Dr. Keita Joy, would you mind just introducing yourself to our audience? 

Dr. Keita Joy: Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you guys. I feel so honored to be a part of it. I'm Dr. Keita Joy, the CEO of success, uncensored coaching, where I maximize the greatest potential of leaders, athletes, and influencers.

All over the nation, I help companies to create and sustain a competitive advantage and then I just like to have a lot of fun and I believe in like living life, life is too short not to live it to the fullest. So I just believe, you know, live it up. Enjoy it. You only got one of them, so use it. 

Allison: That's like the perfect segway into the first thing that I wanted to jump into, because you do talk a lot about this, right? Like we are alive, we need to live our lives. So can we just talk about just to kickstart, like how do we find our purpose? How do we do this? How do we truly live our best lives? 

Dr. Keita Joy: Yeah, that's a great question and the cool thing is it's a journey. So I think once you understand that, then you can accept all the ebbs and the flows in the little bumpy parts of the ride and accept all of it as it's this one big adventure.

I think when I was younger, it was kind of like, okay I've gotta be married at this time. And I was supposed to have like 2.5 kids at this age, and then I should have this type of career by 30. And all of this was just society standards and not my own, like I never even asked myself, like, what do you really want?

So I think purpose first comes from the power of self-awareness and I realized that sometimes I was scared to get to know myself. Because I was scared of what I was going to find, cause I'm also going to find traumatic experiences. If I keep digging a little further, I may find some insecurities, but I realized not to shy away from it. Embrace all of it because it all makes me who I am. 

And so in regards to just purpose, it was really getting reflective, getting still, and then just phoning. What are my talents? What are my skills? What do I know? What do I enjoy doing? Who are the people in my life that I want to make the greatest impact in? And that could be from a global standpoint, national standpoint, and even just right in my own house with my eight and 10 year old, you know?  

And then once you kind of merge it together, you're like, okay, well, what's the best capacity for me to be able to make a difference with everything that I possess for the people that I care about the most, and it sounds really simple, but that's like a whole life journey, like every day, because I'm the pivot queen. I've figured out several ways to live in my purpose and it continues to change, especially in a pandemic, you know? 

Angela: Absolutely. I love that because I know so many people, at least, you know, in my world too, that have done a lot of pivoting lately. And if you would have talked to them, including myself, if you'd have talked to them 5, 10, 15 years ago, they would have no idea that they were in the position that they are now and in so many ways, right. Like personally, professionally. So I love that and just kind of like embracing that and using, you know, harnessing what you have instead of focusing on what you don’t.

And, and really being able to put that forward in your life and learn and grow. And I love all the things, but with that said, I want to take a little step back because that requires, like you said, that evolution, right? When so many of us struggle with feeling comfortable in our own skin, can you say more about sort of, how do you really tap into that authentic self when you sort of aren't really there yet?

Dr. Keita Joy: Yeah. Yeah. And I think there's parts of you that you're never fully there. I think each day you kind of get there a little bit more if you're intentional about doing the work.  You know, a lot of it depends on how you were raised. So I grew up in a home. I'm the only child, my mother battled with drugs and alcohol off and on.

My father passed away when I was 11, but some of the great things they instilled in me, even through the dysfunction and the loss, were words of affirmation, like really telling me. You know, I don't know. Sometimes they probably puffing me up too much, but it's like, you're the best and you can do anything and you're so strong and you're so smart. And those, you need, you need that positive reinforcement in your life because that helps you to have a healthy self concept of yourself. So if you didn't receive that when you were younger, then you have to be intentional about creating a success circle around you that can help you to see who you are, but sometimes we need help to see who we are.

So I think one of the ways that I was able to learn more about myself and accept myself, was to also open myself up to safe people in my life. People that I can trust people who will tell me the truth. I don't need you to be a yes person either, but people that really truly love me and I think the best of me and want the best for me.

So I had to change my circle in my environment, and that was a huge, huge shift. And just helping me see who I am, because I'm like, wait a minute, this is what I deserve. I deserve to be around these types of people who see the best in me. Also therapy, I think we shy away from that. Therapy helped me so much to open my eyes, to understanding who I am and a lot of the baggage that was a barrier into me seeing exactly just how amazing I am.

And then just as a faithful woman of God, I, you know, the Bible is like my blueprint for successful living. And I had to get to a place where I'm like, okay, if I say, God is who he says he is, and if this is what he says, I am. Then I guess that's who I am. You know, if he says I'm a treasured possession and I'm an heir and there's nothing that's too, you know, great for me to handle and he loves me this much.

I'm like, okay, well I have to get to a place where I'm going to believe the truth rather than believe the dysfunctional lies that maybe I was told earlier in my life, you know.

Allison: Oh, my gosh. There's so much I want to dig into so much, so good. Okay. So let's, the affirmations, right?

Like that, that is so powerful. And you know, you, you really opened my eyes to it. We, you know, I had the privilege of watching you in action in a conference. And you know, one of the things you tasked us with doing was writing and saying to somebody for like a minute, all of the good things about ourselves and how it is a lot harder to do that than what you think. 

And so it's so important, but it can absolutely shift your entire mindset and what you think you're capable of. 

Dr. Keita Joy: I even have some in my book opened up, some affirmations that I love. That’s so funny you went there. I add value to all I meet. I am a walking miracle. I will use my gifts unapologetically. I will break generational curses and heal nations with my tongue and my talents. I am hope. I am God's glory. I will do me, do it well, and do it consistently. And then so, but yeah, that. Even just reading it. I'm like, yeah Kita!

Angela: Yes and it's so important that we have those for ourselves, that we were talking about this the other day, too, that we can relate to because we can see them everywhere.

Right. They're affirmations all over every app you've got. You know, sending you notifications that you're great, but it's, if you don't see that in you, if it's something you don't relate to, you're not going to believe it. So I love that you have that and that it's such an easy way that people can sort of customize or tailor that to whatever it is that they can relate to, so thank you for sharing that.

Dr. Keita Joy: No problem. 

Allison: And also the other thing I just want to mention before we keep rolling with all the things we want to talk about, you brought up your circle, right? And it is so important that we allow ourselves to evolve and sometimes our circles are what really kind of hold us back because people pleasing, we're worried about what other people are going to think. There's all of this and it can really impact you. And I always say like, your vibe attracts your tribe, but your tribe also impacts your vibe. And if you're trying to evolve, right. And those around you aren't supportive or maybe are just not the best influence. 

How important it is for you to seek out support, coaches, mentors, you know, people that understand where you're heading…

Dr. Keita Joy: And not be afraid to discontinue some of those relationships that no longer serve you to your point. I had to, in a sense, kind of cut a friend off cause they just didn't understand where I was going and I had to lay it out for them. This is the capacity that I have. This is what I can offer. And if this is not enough, then I'm probably not the right person to be in your space. 

You know, so it's important for you to know what you need so that you're able to articulate that to any type of relationship that you're involved in. Not just intimate, but friendships, business relationships. I think clarity is so key in healthy relationships. 

Allison: Totally, I agree a thousand percent.  

Angela: Same. Well, so one of the things, you know, you talk a lot about too, and we're already talking about it, but sort of in a sort of informal sense of you know, with the mental health exposure. I don't know if that's the right word that we've seen, just,  just in that, in that context. Right. 

But it's sort of like, a lot of this does come to the forefront. A lot of people that, you know, haven't been comfortable talking about it are, it's amazing. We're just seeing so much shifts, but one of the things I was wanting you to speak to is, you know, what do you think are areas that impact our mental health that we're not talking about enough?

Dr. Keita Joy: Hmm. I like that question. That's a good one. You know, something that I've noticed, I think we're having conversations about mental health, but people still don't raise their hand and say, Hey, that's me. I'm that person. It's kind of like, hey everybody, make sure you see a therapist. Okay. Well, are you seeing one?

You know.  And so I think we kind of have to get out of that teaching mode and be more vulnerable with our experiences and share them with people around us. But I just think that balance, especially for high achieving women, especially, we still act like we've got everything figured out. And I think when it comes to the area of depression, I still think that's something that's like a big silent killer.

What I've noticed is, you know, after the fact women will say, oh yeah, yeah, me too. I was depressed. For real? When, when did that, when did this happen? It's like, it's like way after the fact. I think too often women are still suffering in silence. It's like we suffer in silence and then we wait till we think we're okay. And then we share, right?

And I think we have to have, creating more spaces while you're in the thick of it. To feel comfortable to share, like when you're right in the struggle, when it's the most painful to feel comfortable, like I have safe people that I can talk to right now, not after the fact when it's over. And you were like at your wit's end and then now you're like, oh yeah, you guys, that's why you didn't see me because I was stuck in the house depressed.

And it was like, well sis call, you know? And a lot of times it's shame. I've had that where, you know, I want to call a friend and I feel shameful that, Hey, I'm always the strong person. What do I look like being the one, picking up the phone and saying, I feel depressed today.  And then getting into that mindset. Okay. Well, so what Kita? You need a lifeline and it's okay to grab a lifeline when you need it. 

So I really want to see more women do that and not wait until after the fact to share your amazing success story and how you triumphed mental health. You know, it's like in the thick of it sis. What's up? What's going on, you crying, you're stressed out? You still cute. What's up, what's going on? So I want to see more of that when we're actually in the struggle, feeling comfortable to open up. 

Allison: Well, and also because you might be that inspiration for somebody else to finally raise their hand too. 

Dr. Keita Joy: Yes!

Allison: Like, I think that is so powerful when you see somebody else, you know, I always say like, your story could be somebody else's survival guide, right? Like this could literally be what causes somebody to take that first step and do something for themselves and you could potentially be saving a life that you don't even realize it. 

Dr. Keita Joy: That happened to me last month Alison. I posted something on Facebook and I was very transparent and saying this week, so pretty much like right now, this is how I'm feeling.  And it's been hard to get up. It's, I've been sad and I can't really pinpoint why. Do you know it got almost over 300 likes, over like 60 something comments, of top executives, CEOs, entrepreneurs, women who were like me too.

That's me. I just struggled with that last week. Thank you for sharing that. And I'm just like, look,  so many of us, we suffer in silence, but to your point, it takes someone who has enough courage to say, you know what? I can be the first, me, it's me. And then it makes everybody else feel comfortable to say, oh, you know what, me too, me too. So, so true.

Angela: Absolutely. I also just, I think too, I know there's a lot of this sort of coming out too, but  and sort of like the men's mental health movement, because there is that sort of put on a masculine, brave, whatever face, you know, there is, that's been longstanding too. And I know that's been really difficult, but I was talking to a friend the other day and this really reminds me of the conversation I had with her related to how it's again that, you know, after postpartum depression for a lot of women, who've given birth and that are in that space.

You know, it's supposed to be this joyful time, but nobody talks about how much it sucks when you have postpartum. And if you know, then you have folks coming over, you have family and friends, and they're showering you with love and gifts.

And you need to put on this brave face, a new mom, whatever the situation is, and you don't allow yourself that space. And you think other people aren't allowing that for you, you don't create it. Right. So it's just, yeah, it just reminded me of this sort of two other things we've been talking about a lot lately that think you're right.

It's just, we have to push to make more space for those conversations. 

Dr. Keita Joy: Normalize it. Like it's normal, having three days is totally normal. It’s totally okay. You know?

Allison: Well, and just adding to that, you know, obviously we're headed quickly towards the holidays, right. And there's, you know, there's going to be a lot that comes up around the holidays and stress and mental health and all, all of these things.

Right. So there's that side of it. But it's also the time of year where we start really kind of like taking a step back and we look at like, what does next year have in store for us? How can we dream bigger? Pursue our callings. Do all of the things. I know you work with a lot of people to like, level up.

Right. And so what kind of advice would you give to those listening right now that are looking for that inspiration? That motivation?  Even with still so much uncertainty that's out there, like we're living in this very bizarre time in history where there's no predictable end to any of this right now.

But there's still so much hope. So, what, what would you say to those listening right now that are looking for that? 

Dr. Keita Joy: Yeah, so just like in my speech, when you guys came, I truly, truly believe that the gift is in living. If you can remember that, even in the midst of so much chaos and calamity, that you were able to wake up.

Whoa. Like, just sit in that. I don't think we take time just to sit in that we like to sit in the fact that, oh, I made X amount of money or I have a husband or a wife, or I have kids, or I have this, or I have that. It's like, no, sit in the fact that you are alive, just you're alive. Like, that's it. There's so many people that did not get that gift this morning.

You know, and then I even take it further when I talk to my clients, like, think about it. You had no control over when you were going to be born. What air of time, the family that you were going to be born into so that lets you know, that there is something that is so magnetic and is so powerful and supernatural that's going on.

The fact that you had no control over that, but guess what? Here you are. You are still here. That is your proof that there is so much more purpose for you to fulfill just that simple truth of being alive. And so I always tell my clients, start from there, start from the beating heart. Your heart is beating. Start from the fact that you have breath in your lungs.

And then now you can start to begin to be intentional. Like, wow, this gift is so precious. Then let me really start to think. How do I want to use my voice? How do I want to use each and every waking moment? Because the truth of the matter is, I don't have yesterday. I don't have tomorrow, but I know I have today.

And so when I get my clients really understanding how significant and precious life is and how fleeting it is, it gets them to start thinking about. You know what I need to step out on faith and take a risk because oftentimes what I've noticed, people have ideas with what they want to do. So a lot of people don't really have a blank slate.

People got ideas. They're just scared as hell. They're just scared to step out because they think they don't have the resources or people are going to tell them no, or they're not going to believe in them. And the truth of the matter is honey, you're alive. Use it, live, live it out and I always stop it. What's the worst that someone can say, they say no.

So what! You're still living in purpose and you keep going and somebody else will tell you yes. But I think just helping people own the significance in today, helps them to plan better for tomorrow. 

Angela: I love that and it reminds me too, of one of the things we teach sort of in CBT for depression is facing fears very early on because we know that's what keeps people stuck.

It's like your brain has trained you to not move forward because of that laundry list that you just went through, whether it's yourself, whether it's a fear of, you know, fear of so many things, but you do, you have to confront that you have to try. Otherwise, you're not going to make any forward movement. Right, just really at all.

Dr. Keita Joy: Right and I always, you know, to look at fear from my healthy vantage point. I mean, fear is just telling you, oh girl, are you doing something new? That's all it's telling you. It's like, whoa, your body starts to tell you, this is new. We've never done this before, are you sure? So really fear essentially in the beginning is trying to help you out.

Like, Hey, you've created patterns just in case, if you knew and now you're getting ready to do something that is not something you normally do. That is not a regular behavior pattern. Hello, alert, alert. Right. And then that's when you have to speak to fear and say, I appreciate you. So that's what I've learned to have healthy dialogue.

And inside my mind, like, you know, fear I appreciate you. Thank you for warning me, but faith has got this. Courage, has got this. Strategy, it's got this. Creativity, it's got this, but I appreciate you alerting me and letting me know we're doing something new, you know, so that's how I kind of have that inner dialogue with myself.

Angela: I love that you brought that up. I can relate so hard to that in so many ways. So that's what got me through an anxiety disorder. Truly. It's just kind of like starting to really, when I remember when that started to click and it was sort of like, I kinda like this feeling it's uncomfortable, but it's kind of exciting in a way where you're like, you're at that edge and you know that something's going to come out of that, that you may not expect, but then it's up to you as to what you're going to do with that.

And then that's where you sort of see that growth. Right. And we talk about that a lot, but it's, I think that you just really, you nailed it in terms of, I know for me, that's when I really was able to see change. And when you don't have people in your life or those thoughts that can kind of support that idea, that, okay, I can do this. I got this.

Or at least one idea of that it's really hard, but once you can get there, that's an amazing feeling.

Dr. Keita Joy: Then you create new behavior patterns cause after a while your brain is like, oh wait, every time we take a risk, it actually kind of works out like you're okay. And then you kind of create you, your brain says, oh, well we can do it again.

We can step out again. So you know, it's all about you change those different behavior patterns when you change your thought process. 

Angela: Absolutely. I have a quick question for you because I know we don't have a lot of time left, but you keep bringing up intention. And one of the things that I love about just like a new day is that I have that opportunity to set a new intention for the day.

And so I would love to hear what sort of your method you get up in the morning, you’re doing your thing. What helps you? Yeah, I can see it. And I know you do your tik tok video dances. 

Dr. Keita Joy: But not in the morning girl, nobody wants to make a tik tok video in the morning and trust me that's to help everybody out. I got like half an eyebrow. My hair is all over the place. Like that's no good for anybody, even for the transition one. That's like, no, you don't want to see that. But as far as my morning routine to kind of set my thoughts and intentions for the day, because I have an eight and ten-year-old, it's really, really important for me to, I have to wake up early.

Because these jokers wake up really early and when they wake up, they expect mommy to just be fully present already. I'm like, whoa, I'm not there yet. Slow down. Like they wake up, there's no good morning. It's like, mommy, don't forget this. Are you picking me up? Dah, dah, dah, did we run out of snacks? I'm like, oh my gosh, good morning to you too.

Love you too. Right? So to even beat that type of kid traffic, cause it's like traffic. I have to really be disciplined and get up before them. And so that means I have to be disciplined at night to go to sleep. Just they got to go together. Right. But I truly believe in getting up early.  I love to pray before I get up in the morning.

And I also liked to recite the things that I'm grateful for. So that helps me to set my intentions for the day. So I love to wake up and just whatever comes to my mind, like, oh my gosh, I'm so grateful for the sunrise. I'm grateful that it's only 55 degrees outside right now. I'm grateful for my husband.

I'm grateful for new, you know, so I just kind of, whatever comes to my mind, I recite those things. While I'm putting my makeup on, I have to, I like to listen to sermons. So I have like certain sermons I like to listen to. And then I love morning runs. So like this morning I ran five miles and that's the time where nobody needs me.

Nobody's asking for Kita. No one wants me to pick anything up. No one's trying to call me. It's literally just me, my thoughts and the pavement.  And then I also use the calm app and do some meditation practices. So all of that is like a good hour, just a good hour to myself in the morning. And then, I mean I’m a much better mother and I'm very much more purpose-focused for the rest of the day.

Allison: Yeah, I can totally relate to all of this because I have three kids and they're, one of them's a really early riser. And so, and I noticed during COVID, she just kept getting up earlier and earlier, I'm like this is my time. Like what are you doing..

I love you, but I need this, but it's, I totally notice if I deviate from the morning routine, my day can be off, right?  Like it's just, it's become such a routine and such a habit that I don't have any decision fatigue from anything, right. Like, I know what's going to happen. I've got it all set up.

I'm setting myself up for success. I'm filling up my cup because I can't pour from my cup if it's empty. Right. And so I love that you are an early bird as well, because it makes all the difference.

Dr. Keita Joy:: It does.

Allison: Oh my

Dr. Keita Joy: But those netflix shows mess me up at night and I have to, I have to talk to my, that self-talk, I'm like Kita. No more, that's it.

If you want to get up and have that time with yourself in the morning, you need to go to bed. So I think a lot of self-love equals discipline and setting your intentions for the day. It takes discipline to do that.

Allison: I agree a thousand percent. So we have loved having you on the show, but we ask every single one of our guests that come on, at this point in your life what matters most to you right now?

Dr. Keita Joy: Being fulfilled, that matters most to me. Being fulfilled. I don't want it, if it doesn't bring me fulfillment, there's no price tag that I can swap for fulfillment. That's what I want. 

Allison: I love that. That’s the first time we heard that. 

Angela: Period, plain and simple. Well, on that note, Dr. Joy, thank you so much for joining us today.

Can you share with our listeners how they can follow you on social media or otherwise. 

Dr. Keita Joy: Yes, absolutely. So you can go to my website, successuncensored.com to see all the different leadership trainings and things that I do and my company does. Please follow me on social media. I'm super active, have a great time there.

And that's @thedrkeitajoy, D R K EI T A J O Y. And then I also had the Success Uncensored podcast on YouTube, Apple and Spotify as well.

Allison: I am so glad this happened!

Angela: Come back soon! 

Allison: Yes, come back! 

Dr. Keita Joy: Yes of course! This went by so fast, i’m like..

Angela: We have so much more to talk about. So thank you so much.

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